You Cannot Be Serious - Hallgatás Online

00:00 No. No, we'll just have to pretend that John McEnroe said... You can't be serious, man. You cannot be serious! 00:13 We'll just have to pretend he said that. 00:16 Now, Duck, the first thing I want to ask you, did you... I don't know what time it would have come on in Melbourne. Did you watch the final of the World Cup between Spain and Argentina? 00:27 No. No. 00:30 No, because it was probably at three in the morning, was it? No, in saying that, that doesn't matter. I'm an early riser. If I really wanted to get up and have interest in it. And the thing about soccer, look, it's the world game. 00:45 I thought it was a huge success. 00:48 If you ask Donald Trump, it was the biggest World Cup success that the world has ever seen, obviously. 00:55 I, when Australia was in it, there was obviously some interest because you're Australian and there's some patronism there. But I didn't get up to watch Australia. I didn't get up to watch Spain and or Argentina. I was going for Argentina for one reason, and that's my son, Carter, who loves Messi. 01:16 Has there been... I want to ask you this question. So has there been... And I might be wrong here, but... 01:25 So universally, in my time as being on this earth... 01:31 which is a while, you're a lot longer. There has been two people, no, three people, in my opinion, sports people, that have transcended all around the world. 01:44 The first one is Muhammad Ali. 01:47 who I got to know through my dad was a fan and that's where I first heard his name and obviously then followed his career and only a kid but watched every single thing you could possibly watch on him and the political stance that he took and all of the things that he did in his life. And by the way, he's not a perfect human being. 02:14 He just was an amazing athlete, amazing, best heavyweight of all time, in my opinion, but just incredible. So there's not a person on earth that wouldn't know who Muhammad Ali is. The second, I would say, would be Michael Jordan. 02:30 who I think made basketball even more popular than what it already was. 02:40 Once again, there wouldn't be a person on earth that wouldn't know who Mohamed, sorry, who Michael Jordan is. And the third person, I reckon, and this, you know, you obviously got the likes of Tom Brady, but not everyone follows NFL and you've got other athletes and you've got Michael Phelps from the Olympics and you've got, you know, people will talk about heaps of other athletes and talking about that just nobody on earth would never have heard of. Those two and the third one is Messi. 03:11 And the kids here in Australia at school, every single one of them, it's either Ronaldo or Messi. 03:23 Messi gets the nod. They just absolutely love him. They talk about him being the goat and he's the goat, not Ronaldo. 03:34 So that's the interest that you had in it was through your son who says, Dad, I want Messi to win the World Cup. 03:43 Okay, so you're spot on, Duck. So, without going through the best sports, men or women, soccer-wise, Pelé was probably there, and then Maradona, and then Ronaldo, but I watched Messi. I've really not known how good he was. Sue and I watched England and Argentina, and that man was so much better than anyone on the ground. As soon as he got near the ball, You knew magic was going to happen. 04:15 He didn't have a shot on goal in the final, which was they scored in, I think, the last or time on in whatever it was, extra time, Spain. He didn't have a shot on goal. He was probably well held. but he was so much better than anyone that we watched over the six weeks. It was amazing. So you're spot on. 04:38 You are spot on. So you didn't watch it. So at halftime, they had... What I thought was a fantastic half-time entertainment. Normally I'm not into those things. We're a captive audience because we just sat there and watched it. And my word, did the choreographers and the music people and the selection of what they did. I wonder if people have knocked it or said it was bullshit or it was no good because I'm usually pretty cynical. 05:09 but I thought it was fantastic. Right down to the opening, do you know who Bruce Buffer is? Bruce Buffer introduces the cage fighting. Yes, I know who he is. He said, and now from the Red Cup. So when they were about to kick off and the sides were taking their position to start the World Cup, they crossed to him and he said, And now! 05:40 And the crowd went berserk. I don't know if people thought that was cringeworthy, but he was a staple icon. But the halftime entertainment was absolutely brilliant. And if you hear someone knock it, that's fair enough, because it's all in the eye of the beholder. I usually knock all those things. But it was absolutely brilliant. And... 06:03 They did it well, the States, and I think Qatar have it next four years. They'll do it better. They'll just keep doing it. They'll keep out doing one another after the Olympics. But it was a pretty great success and put Canada and Mexico and the United States on the globe as far as soccer goes, Duck. 06:25 Yeah, no, I agree with the halftime. It goes to show, because it wasn't a night game, was it? It was a day game. Yes, day game. Yeah, it goes to show you that the halftime entertainment, everyone keeps talking, that it has to be, you know, it's more spectacular at night. I get the lighting and fireworks and all that make it, you know, that in itself is spectacular, but it goes to show you that if you get it right, it can be good in the daytime as well. But Sam, I don't think those entertainers, they're all involved. 06:59 And you had Beyonce and Madonna and Justin Bieber and I don't know who else. 07:03 Robbie Williams. 07:04 Artists. 07:06 But they do it for the honour. 07:12 they do asked to do it i don't think they get i don't well i don't know i don't think they get paid an exorbitant amount of money they do it for the honor of being asked to do it and it was yeah i agree i thought it was uh i thought it was unbelievable and the one but you know what sticks in my head you know it sticks in my head though your mate donald when uh spain won and he walked up and uh didn't, you know, had his hands on the trophy more than the Spaniards did and didn't really want to get off the stage, sort of lingered to the right of the team before they really went off to celebrate and had to be half pulled off the stage. 07:53 What did you think about that? 07:55 Fantastic. He put it on. He held the cup. He welcomed them. He said, there you are, even though your government doesn't support us by going into Iran. I'm glad you won it. Good luck to you. I'm just going to hang on to it for a bit longer because I am running the world. He is fantastic, that man. Yeah, couldn't he? They love him. They love to hate him. 08:19 He was a fantastic duck. I was going to say something about the final Messi. No, I can't remember what I was going to say. It was a resounding success. It was. 08:33 Sorry, I've lost. I was just going to say something else about it. Now, Ken Hinckley. I hear Ken Hinckley has been made. So this gets back to, have Carlton picked a coach yet? 08:48 No. 08:50 Have Essendon picked a coach? 08:52 No. 08:54 Ken Hinckley, I see, came, just a headline, and said, we will be hard to beat, the Devils. What does that mean? 09:07 or that means that he believes that they'll be able to put a list together straightaway that is competitive, unlike, I guess, other teams in recent times that have come into the competition. 09:23 He believes that they'll be more than competitive straightaway. I will say this. When it came to the devil's job, which is why... 09:34 I guess it... I mean, look, it's an attractive job because, one, you get a long-term contract if you enjoy developing young kids. I think Tassie's a beautiful place. I'm a country boy, though, you know, for me, and I have said this before, that... if tassie came in when i was playing and i got asked to go down there and play i would have had no issue in doing that um i didn't like melbourne melbourne was a big city i'm from the country so i think you might get i think people might be might get a bit of a shock about how many people want to go to tassie and play it's only a 45 minute flight hour flight from Melbourne and Sydney and other places and Adelaide and everywhere else. 10:16 It is a beautiful, Tassie, Lonnie's beautiful, Hobart's beautiful, the whole state, the produce is amazing. 10:24 People are friendly. 10:26 I think that they will have no issue with getting players to go down there, in particular when the stadium is finished with the roof on and The reason why they went with Ken Hinckley over the others, Sam, is quite simply he will do more smoothing with the people and the locals than what normal coaches would have to do. And he is a man of the people. So he will be doing a lot of work. 10:57 that the likes of, this is just an opinion, doesn't mean it's right. I just think he'll do more of that type of stuff than what, say, a John Longmire and a Nathan Buckley, or for that matter, most other senior coaches who are there just to coach the team. 11:14 he will do a lot of background work in regards to bringing Tasmanians together. And that means Lonnie and Hobart, bringing them together, bringing them in as one to support this new franchise that is the Tasmanian Devils. I think the appointment is a good one because he's going to, I'll tell you what, he'll earn his money because he'll be doing a lot of work in the background on all counts. So well done to Ken Hinkley and well done to Tassie. 11:46 I think they've made the right appointment. 11:48 Do you? So he hasn't got appointed on his record then. He's got appointed on the fact that he'll smooch everyone in the land. 11:56 No, his record isn't poor, Sam. Grand finals are hard to get into. They're hard to win. He didn't get into one. 12:07 Nathan Buckley hasn't won one either, but he got in one. He didn't get into one. John Longmire's been in five. I get it. But his consistency, he brought Port Adelaide back from the brink. He was involved with Gold Coast. He's coached at country levels, which is Tassie's a big country town. He's one of those guys that is much loved. His players love him development-wise, et cetera, et cetera. So... 12:36 I think all in all, they got their man and well done to Tassie. I look forward to Tassie being in the comp. I think they should have been in there before Gold Coast and GWS. But they're finally in there and they'll do a good job. 12:52 So it was all dependent on the stadium. I heard you say, have they got a roof over the... Have they designed the thing with a roof that goes over it? Because people don't worry about people having a roof over their head in Tassie. They want to have a roof in their mouth, just for a start. So have they got a roof over their head there? 13:11 The stadium will have a roof. The problem... The issue is the stadium hasn't even... They haven't even... 13:21 signed a builder yet to do the stadium. So that's still out. I don't know whether that's still out to tender, but there hasn't even been a shovel lifted at this point in time. 13:33 So the first few years of the Tassie Devils being in the competition, that stadium is not going to be built, which I find a little disappointing. That's probably the one flatten that for me. It's going to be another three or four years before that stadium is finished. You would have loved that to have been finished when they started in the comp. That's not going to happen. 14:02 Absolutely. And, of course, it'll dilute the standard of competition in the AFL just by another 40-odd players because they've got to come from somewhere. And there's a dearth of talent going around at the minute. So I'm not sure that the competition's going to be improved too much. 14:22 The other thing that it does... Yeah, I agree, Sam. The other thing... Yeah, the dilution is already there. We see that in the... in the game that we watch every weekend now, but it also escalates players' payments. So players will get paid or have to get paid more than what they're actually worth. So the clubs that they're already at, let's say you're at North Melbourne, And there's talk that, you know, there's a couple of Tassie boys. 14:56 There's plenty of Tassie boys playing in the competition. So they'll target those guys first. So they'll get paid way above what they're worth to go back to Tassie if that's what they decide to do. And if they decide to stay at their particular club, they'll get paid way above because they have to be paid way above so they don't go home. 15:18 So this is where the supply and demand, and this is why, you know... 15:27 I think Lee Matthews, I think it was Lee Matthews that said in the last couple of weeks, it is a very weird world, unusual world that we have, where the best players in the competition, the best players in our competition are not the most highly paid. In what other sport in the world do we have kids, kids and children Others, just because of the fact that you're trying to hold on and this is what free agency has done and this is the can of worms that we've opened and the draft and all of this, it's meant to even the competition, which none of it has because we have a compromised draw. 16:10 Everything's compromised in the world of AFL. They make it up as they go. And that is that these players are being way, way overpaid. I love that they are, but way overpaid to stay or go. 16:29 Spot on, Duck. The socialism that is rampant in the AFL, they will pay and give benefits and entitlements to those players who want to move and have a free licence to move. And they will facilitate the fact that if they want to get the Tasmanian Devils up and running straight away, they'll make sure that it happens like they did with... 16:52 the preferential treatment they gave the greater West Sydney and all the other sides, all the other new sides that came in. It's a socialist structure. And as I say, it's a dinky little competition. We love it at the bottom of a dinky little country. We all love it. But don't get too carried away about how professional our game is. 17:12 No, it's, yeah, well, it's, it's, You know what, the big talking point, Sam, you won't be surprised, still here is still the standard of umpiring and where we're going with that. So that's still a massive, massive talking point. The AFL did, you'll like this, you might have heard this all the way over there in Pompeii, and that is the AFL has said, by the way, that they have better technology better technology that will be rolled out just before the finals this year. 17:54 Implemented. 17:58 Implemented. What technology is that? 18:01 Well, more, I don't know, more cameras, more angles, whatever it is, but it's better technology and it will help the ARC. The problem with the ARC is I think Mr. Magoo is in charge of the ARC because Mr. Magoo, some of the things we see, Mr. Magoo doesn't see. So the ARC mightn't be the problem. It might be the Mr. Magoo's behind it. And the other thing that... we need to fix and that is the inconsistency and the inconsistencies around the still around players that are getting three weeks for tackles and then a tackle that is very similar. 18:49 So the action, I've always said this Sam and people don't talk about it and all these people in the media don't talk about it enough. If you want to make it consistent, to be consistent, you have to punish the action. 19:10 Punish the action, not the outcome. And if you do that, you will get consistency. The reason why everyone's up in arms, because they see a tackle, it's exactly the same. The only difference is a player is concussed, and the other one isn't. So it's based off that. So that's outcome. So penalise the action and you will get consistency. It's not a puzzle. It is not that hard. Because the other thing that we did, and anyone that is well read on concussion, and I am well read on a concussion because something I'm involved in, and that is that what knocks you out doesn't knock me out, right? 19:53 And we all have different bodies, we all have different limbs, soft tissues, brain, all of that. So that's why, Sam, punish the action. Now, how easy is that? 20:08 We talk about holding the ball. We talk about how easy things are to fix in this game. That is the one. That is the one that everyone's up in arms about, you know, Paul Curtis from North Melbourne gets three weeks. There's a tackle exactly the same the week after Collingwood. 20:24 I can't remember, Frempton, I think it was, tackled someone. Very similar. It's been two or three since and they have got off. Whereas Curtis got three, because the difference is one went off, the other player, one player went off and was concussed and those players weren't. So just make it easy. 20:46 It's a knee-jerk reaction to populism. 20:51 If someone looks as though they're hurt or pretends they're hurt or even is hurt, it's a knee-jerk reaction. Oh, we better do something because we'll be shouted down. 21:02 No one makes a decision on common sense. No one stands back and looks at the game. It's all computerized and no one is... This is why I just keep saying, we don't want... Don't stop me on the women, I'm pouring again. 21:16 Do we have common sense? The only thing about common sense is it's not all that common. 21:22 Yes, exactly right, Duck. We're all worried about the ticks on the sheep that we might get. We're all worried about it. 21:30 We're worried about things that we have. 21:35 Anyway, the game is right now, we talk about the equalisation of the game, Sam, and I think this is one of the real issues. We have clubs We have clubs like St Kilda who have been unbelievably competitive, but sit in the middle of the rung. They might win a wild card. I've said this before, I admire Ross Lyon and what he has done. 22:01 In saying that, they've won one premiership in the history of their club. 22:05 The last 30 years, there's been four clubs that have sat and challenged for premierships. Four or five clubs, I think it is, that are up there consistently. Now, and that's in the last 20, 25 years. So if we had equalisation and the draft created that and free agency, et cetera, et cetera, then why is it? that we have the same clubs battling it out year after year after year after year. And we do have a few, this year though, we have Fremantle, who it's theirs to lose as far as I'm concerned. 22:41 I still think Brisbane, I tip Brisbane the start of the year. I still think their best and on the big stage, I still think their best is as good as anyone's. 22:52 We have a few other ones up there. Adelaide are just starting to come into some form, Sam. I don't know whether you know that. Geelong are in some trouble. They're fighting. 23:03 They've got a really tough run home, but they're fighting for survival. So some teams are dropping off and Collingwood have won five in a row, albeit against some, you know, not unbelievable opponents, but they're consistently winning again. So we've... 23:22 Unfortunately, I think we might have this year two interstate non-Victorian teams playoff. 23:31 Just about to say that, Duck. You've got Adelaide, Brisbane and Frio. That should just make the game so exciting back in Melbourne. A whole lot of interstate people coming down on planes and staying at the Ritz and staying at the Hilton theatre-goers. Don't worry about the people who battle their guts out to go every week. It'll just be an anti-climax. I don't care. You've got to have a couple of Melbourne sides playing in the grand final to have the atmosphere going. 24:05 I know that won't go over well. Has anyone got suspended yet? 24:09 How good would it be Frio winning their first ever flag this year? See, I'm actually, I would love Freo to win it. 24:20 Would you? 24:21 Yeah, of course I would. I think Fremantle, they've been unbelievable. I'd love them to win it. I'd love the Crows to win it. Brisbane have won two, so don't worry about Brisbane, but I would love the Crows. Haven't won since 98. I know that grand final very well. 24:39 I would love the Crows to win it. I'd love Freo to win it. 24:43 FRIO to win their first premiership would be huge. And the Perth people would go absolutely berserk. And I reckon they've already booked their tickets, the Perth people, the FRIO supporters. And you know what? And I reckon there's even West Coast supporters going for FRIO. There you go. So they'll have a whole state behind them, Sam. and they will come over in their drones. Oh, yeah. 25:06 So you wouldn't like the Western Bulldogs and Hawthorne to play off or Geelong and Collingwood? 25:11 You wouldn't like any of those to play off in the grand final? Hawthorne have won enough flags. The Bulldogs, I don't think, can win it this year because of injury. 25:22 I wouldn't mind the Bulldogs, but don't worry about those other clubs you mentioned. Bloody Collingwood, they won a few years ago. 25:29 I'm not talking about how many friendships they won. I'm talking about the atmosphere in Melbourne on grand final day. without imported theatre-goers swanning in. I'm talking about the grassroots people who follow their clubs and have suburbs to follow, like Essendon and Footscray and North Melbourne. They come, they're suburban, they're warriors. 25:58 they are they they they have their own patch of ground and i want infiltrators bobbing down from all across the country and taking the limelight come on duck hawthorne hawthorne are probably capable um but the reason why geelong have got um geelong have got uh injuries too sam so that's that puts them oh well everyone's got injuries well not everyone has 26:26 Has anyone got reported yet? I'm waiting for this to happen. Has anyone got reported for speaking to an opponent behind a cupped hand yet? Remember I said that you're not allowed to speak to your opponent if you've got your hand over your mouth because they can't tell what you said. Apparently they have a team of lip readers and now they've got everything else up in the box there. They've got lip readers. So if you put your hand across your mouth and you say, you're an asshole. You might get suspended for that duck. 26:56 I notice a woman, a woman, listen to this, the Australian coach of a WNBA side, that's the equivalent in women's basketball to the awful out here, called Sandy... Brondello, she's an Australian, an African-American player did something and she got off and Sandy said, oh, she's a protected species. 27:31 And they suspended the coach for saying that. 27:36 I'm not sure why. That seemed to be a reasonable statement, if you consider... Well, it's an old saying, Sam. 27:44 It's an old saying, a protected species. No, she got suspended. That saying's been around for ever and a day. Why is that? 27:53 Yes, she got suspended for saying it about this person who got off because she said she's a protected species, which would bring into discussion... the preferential treatment if you said aboriginals get preferential treatment they go to the head of the queue at hospitals they get entitlements they get free finance advice if you said that you would say that's racist all she did was made a perfectly legitimate statement and she got this is what we're doing we're jumping at shadows mate because that's an old saying you're a protected species that's 28:32 she got suspended for it and i'm not saying i'm not saying all old sayings are still valid these days but saying you're a protected species is is i don't see anything wrong with that but um do you want to do the tips yes all right duck yes you've had enough of this now then all right well i'll get on with the tips let's say how did you go last week and now this incidentally i was just going to ask you this 28:57 You were talking about Tasmania. Didn't you, have I got this wrong? Didn't you go down to Tasmania with your friends from Mount Gambier? They've got a plaster business or something. Didn't you go down to Tasmania on a fishing expedition? No, I went with Matty. In holiday with them, or have I got that wrong? 29:17 No, Matty and Marty from MG Plasterers, they're from Mount Gambier. 29:22 I thought you said you went down on a fishing trip. I took Carter there, and I have been to Mount Gambier fishing, very good fishing in Mount Gambier. 29:32 No, Duck, down to Tasmania. You told me, I thought, you went down to Tasmania with them, the people from Mount Gambier, on a fishing trip. 29:44 No, geez, you've got to mix stuff up. 29:48 We've been on a lot of trips. No, Matty and Marty are from Mount Gambier. I went fishing in Mount Gambier with Matty and Marty, and I took Carter there. Hey, you remember that go-kart, that electric go-kart from Jack Max? 30:06 In Derriman Gyms. Remember that go-kart I got, Carter? Yes. I took that to Mount Gambier. So the weather's... With Matty and Marty. 30:16 Matty and Marty from MG Plasterers, yes. Very good people. They like you. They see a facetiousness in your voice sometimes when we bring them up. So Matty wants to have a chat to you. 30:30 He said... What was he going to shout at me? 30:31 Was he going to shout at me? 30:33 No, I told him that you're overseas, but he'll give you a buzz during the week. 30:40 Oh, that'll be fantastic. 30:41 What are we going to speak about? 30:43 How to plaster things? 30:45 He goes, well, he might plaster your gob shut, so then you can't make some stupid comments. 30:54 I tell you what, Smeetsy, he contacts me a lot. He loves you, Doug, from Ralph Smeets. He loves you, he does, and he loves us. 31:09 Yes, I might have to have a chat to Smeetsy. 31:14 Ralph Smeets at the South Melbourne market. Yes, yes, I know, yes, you love Smeetsy. What's he sending your sausages over there, is he? 31:23 I wish. 31:24 All you eat over here is pastry and donuts and pizzas. 31:28 Well, that's why, by the way, I didn't say before, I let it just sort of roll over. I didn't say what an almighty effort it was from you to climb up to the top of that volcano. 31:43 You don't know how good an effort it was, Doug. Now, here are the tips. 31:47 I do, yes. Give me the tip. See, when I'm giving you a compliment, you don't like it, do you? 31:52 No, I don't. I get worried when you start to give me compliments because the last compliment you didn't give me was about my hair that I got from Turkey. 32:01 So I'm a bit wary when you give me a compliment. 32:03 By the way, you do look, you look, you look, you know what? You look fresh. You look, you're a bit red, but you look, you look. That's a tan. 32:13 Yes. 32:14 Right, the Crows versus Collingwood. 32:17 Yep. Well, the Crows, Collingwood have got an unbelievable record in Adelaide, but it'll get beaten this week. The Crows, I think, will start to flex their muscle. 32:29 The two traditional sides, I think, who started off the competition back in the day, Melbourne and Geelong. 32:37 Ooh, you know what? I'm going to go with... Geelong have got some injuries, Sam. I'm going to go with Melbourne. I think Melbourne in an upset, but some people wouldn't call it an upset, but Melbourne have not lost a game at the MCG this year, I don't think. 32:53 No, so I'm going to tip Melbourne to beat the Cats. 32:58 Now, let me see if I can guess who you're going to tip. Fremantle or the West Coast Eagles? 33:05 Oh, the local derby. Derby. 33:09 Derby, derby. 33:10 They call it a derby. 33:13 I will, Fremantle will win by 15 goals. 33:20 Oh, that's a very good, I like that, a very courageous tip rather than sitting on the fence. Carlton and the Swans. Carlton and the Suns, rather. Carlton and the Suns. 33:31 Ooh, this is another good one. Carlton have lost the last couple or few in a row, Sam, so they've won the seven on the trot and then they haven't won the game. The Suns' ordinary last... You know what? I'm going to go with the Blues. I think I'm going to give the Blues another chance. The Suns aren't playing finals this year. The Sun's gone down. 33:57 Yeah, the Sun has gone down. It has gone down for a while. And it hasn't come back up, unfortunately. So I think the Blues will win. 34:09 Hawthorne and Essendon. 34:13 Now, the Bombers had their second win, Sam. 34:16 Oh, isn't that amazing? They changed coaches and they had a win. 34:19 They beat GWS. Yeah, well, they'd lost the previous whatever under him. But they had a good win. But Hawthorne will win this one by 10-plus goals. 34:32 The Giants and the Swans. Well, the Giants get themselves up for better opponents. But... 34:42 Unfortunately, I reckon they're cooked as well. 34:45 Toby Green's injured, their captain. I think the Swans win, and they should win well as well. 34:53 That's in Sydney. 34:55 Yeah. Oh, really? Could have been in Canberra. 34:59 That was a joke. Yeah, I'm glad you got that. That was a joke. 35:02 The Western Bulldogs and Richmond. 35:05 Western Bulldogs, Sam, will win well. They will win by, they should win by about 10 goals as well. 35:15 Lions and Port Adelaide. 35:19 Hang on, did that, didn't, oh, is that this week? Lions and Port Adelaide. Yeah, okay. 35:26 Have I written that down incorrectly? 35:29 No, that's right, isn't it? 35:31 Yep, no, Lions. 35:34 Right, and now, now, Duck, I bet you're going to go, ooh, North Melbourne and St Kilda. 35:41 Ooh, this is an interesting one. 35:47 I've tipped against North. I've tipped against North the last few weeks. 35:53 They've lost some close games. They could have won them. Unfortunately, I think St Kilda are playing for more because I don't think North Melbourne, they're certainly not playing finals or wild card or anything like that. 36:10 And I think the Saints have been more. I trust the Saints more, more consistent. 36:17 So you've gone for the Crows, Melbourne, Fremantle, Carlton, Hawthorne, Swans, Western Bulldogs, Lions and St Kilda. And I'm really worried about Matt and Mark or Matt and Marty or whatever their names are from the plastering company. What does he want to speak to me about? 36:32 No, because you... Is he angry with me? No, yeah, it's this attitude that you, it's this attitude that you, when I bring him up, you've got this attitude. 36:44 So anyway, he'll call you. 36:47 Oh, so he's going to be my life coach, is he? 36:50 Yeah. No, that's Tess. Tess, unfortunately, Tess, you know what, we continue to try to be better, don't we? 37:02 Well, I'm giving it my best shot. And when I meet Marty or Mark or whatever his name is from M.G. What is it called? M.G. Plasteries. Yes. When I meet him, I'll go to another level. Don't worry about that. 37:17 All right. All right. Hoo-bye, Samuel. 37:20 See you. 37:21 Hoo-bye.